Thanks for the great infomation on the offensive Chosen path.
But one point to note, both 2h and S&B has their own role in RvR. For example, S&B may not be able to do great dmg but they can last longer thus they are good for protecting our caster and provide a division. The most important are still teamwork and the player who know how to play the class well.
Remember I was with you when we tried to take on 1 group of orders at DW MM BFO? Even with your great spec, we are not even able to kill a single orders becos they have 2 healer with them (1 AM and 1 RP).
Well, in a 2v6 situation like that, chances are you probably wouldn't have survived. You could have possibly taken out the AM and another squishy before your lack of a healer would've killed you. Personally I find it gratifying dropping a healer or caster right in front of a whole group - a perennial FU
Think Tipsy runs a build similar to this and he's a wrecking ball. But bear in mind he's also better geared than either of you. You should also look for the macro that does aura twisting, he's always boasting that he never runs out of AP lol.
Quote: Well, in a 2v6 situation like that, chances are you probably wouldn't have survived. You could have possibly taken out the AM and another squishy before your lack of a healer would've killed you. Personally I find it gratifying dropping a healer or caster right in front of a whole group - a perennial FU
Think Tipsy runs a build similar to this and he's a wrecking ball. But bear in mind he's also better geared than either of you. You should also look for the macro that does aura twisting, he's always boasting that he never runs out of AP lol.
Hehe, I got a hard timing twisting my aura even with the addon cos of the KD, Disable etc. Guess I need to practice myself more. :)
Actually at that time, there are like 3-4 tanks against that order grp.
Ken, don't get me wrong, your spec is really good, I believed my bro, Alexlee is going toward your recommendation. :D
As for me, I sill stay as 1h + Shield as my play style is more defensive and also act as a decoy. That is, I charge in draw the fire power from the orders so that our caster and the rest of the melee dps are free from being attack.
By the way, Ken, for morale 2, why not Raze? ^_^
SnB ftw~~~~~~~~~~~ for the underpowered BG :(
1. Rending Blade does more DPS, if not blocked/disrupted, than Raze. Tzeetch Amp lets me make up for the rather pitiful heals I often receive cause no one likes me and thus wont pocket heal for me. Raze also can't crit which means it can't trigger Crip Strike which is a huge disadvantage. Mostly I use Tzeetch Amp cause its really increases your survivability in orvr and it comes up quite often.
2. Yes we got rolled 2v6, but had I been SB, would have been the same. Had you been 2h built like me, we could have possibly taken down at least 1 healer by putting out so much pressure DPS they wouldn't be able to keep up.
Shield only benefits really for tank walling and HtL in keep/fort defence's. Neither of those needs to be specced and I carry a shield with me all the time. The point is though that the other 95% of the time, you are far far better off with my build. +15% crit rate = crip strikes triggers much more often which is a huge debuff, often making up for whatever stats you gain from a shield. Also, a shield only works in your frontal cone, and frankly unless you are back line guarding, you will be taking damage from all sides.
Ah, I see. I dun think ppl dun like you, unless we are one of those famous ppl like Vex, Acol, I dun think we will have our pocket healer.
And thanks for sharing the difference between Rendering Blade and Raze.
Maybe next time when we are grouped in the same group, I will guard you and see how we far against those orders.
And yes, the +15% critical and Crip Strike is a very tempting combo tactics. I will try to use your build once I got myself a good Great weapon. ;)
Quote: Ah, I see. I dun think ppl dun like you, unless we are one of those famous ppl like Vex, Acol, I dun think we will have our pocket healer.
And thanks for sharing the difference between Rendering Blade and Raze.
Maybe next time when we are grouped in the same group, I will guard you and see how we far against those orders.
And yes, the +15% critical and Crip Strike is a very tempting combo tactics. I will try to use your build once I got myself a good Great weapon. ;)
Just got for the r37+ 2h Doom Edge with 2 +16 str tali's. Doom Edge takes like 15 minutes to get tops from the quest line. From there either of the elite orvr ones are good choices.
Just got for the r37+ 2h Doom Edge with 2 +16 str tali's. Doom Edge takes like 15 minutes to get tops from the quest line. From there either of the elite orvr ones are good choices. [/QUOTE]
Doom Edge is from Epic quest? The problem is, I have already completed all my T4 oRvR influence and I got all the 1h weapons. I really regret not getting a Great weapon.
Quote: Just got for the r37+ 2h Doom Edge with 2 +16 str tali's. Doom Edge takes like 15 minutes to get tops from the quest line. From there either of the elite orvr ones are good choices.
Doom Edge is from Epic quest? The problem is, I have already completed all my T4 oRvR influence and I got all the 1h weapons. I really regret not getting a Great weapon.
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http://forums.warhammeronline.com/warhamme...ts&thread.id=72
Tells ya where the quest start. The check the camps until you find the quest, they will be labeled in your ToK as epic.
Quote: Harrison,Mar 30 2009, 11:26 AM Wrote:Just got for the r37+ 2h Doom Edge with 2 +16 str tali's. Doom Edge takes like 15 minutes to get tops from the quest line. From there either of the elite orvr ones are good choices.
Doom Edge is from Epic quest? The problem is, I have already completed all my T4 oRvR influence and I got all the 1h weapons. I really regret not getting a Great weapon.
http://forums.warhammeronline.com/warhamme...ts&thread.id=72
Tells ya where the quest start. The check the camps until you find the quest, they will be labeled in your ToK as epic. [/quote]
Thanks Ken, I have already completed both Dark Elf and Chaos Epic quests. All I left was the Greenskin which I read from WAR Alliance forum that the quest is bugged. Will try to complete it though.
NICE update kenwayy.. i read the post on toughness.... now i gonna respecc my RR again... n changing all my +wounds talisman to +toughness... gonna test out how it works.... is it really dat GREAT on it.... n hell yeah.. BG can hae up to 1.6k n MORE toughness if specced correctly.. anyway.. BG cant do shyt to ppl as well let ppl trying hard to kill me
Quote: NICE update kenwayy.. i read the post on toughness.... now i gonna respecc my RR again... n changing all my +wounds talisman to +toughness... gonna test out how it works.... is it really dat GREAT on it.... n hell yeah.. BG can hae up to 1.6k n MORE toughness if specced correctly.. anyway.. BG cant do shyt to ppl as well let ppl trying hard to kill me
Vice, toughness is good as long as it does not exceed the orders attack bonus (Str for melee and Int for Caster). I have tested on npc mob and once my toughness bonus exceed the mob attack bonus, the dmg I received is the same, that is the base dmg will still applied.
Example,
Mob base dmg is 20
Mob bonus attack dmg from Str is 300
There will be not difference for my toughness that exceed 300, that is, be it my toughness is 400 or 500, I will still receive the base dmg, which is 20. I guess this is what most player said about the toughness "soft cap".
Not sure whether this is a good news or bad news for 2h spec offensive Chosen.
From WAR Herald on patch 1.2.1
Rending Blade: This abilitys tooltip now correctly states that the ability is undefendable. Additionally, this abilitys reuse has increased and the cost has been lowered.
Quote: Not sure whether this is a good news or bad news for 2h spec offensive Chosen.
From WAR Herald on patch 1.2.1
Rending Blade: This abilitys tooltip now correctly states that the ability is undefendable. Additionally, this abilitys reuse has increased and the cost has been lowered.
Its horrible news for 2h Chosen. Simply wont be worth it any more with the nerfs to ToT/ToP from 1.2 and now 1.2.1 nerf to RB. That's why I posted the toughness build, its the only one worth a damn. Best part is, all tanks can do it better and still deal respectable damage, we can't.
i done the research on toughness.. is worth it..
Quote: i done the research on toughness.. is worth it..
You tested already, Vice? I know it is worth it when you are against melee dps and BW that you are not able to get close to him. But for Chosen, the sacrifice of other stats maybe too much for us.
With reference to the toughness post, for Chosen to reach 1K toughness, we need mostly PvE gear + toughness ring + toughness tailsman + toughness banner bonus. Really a high orders for me to get those.
i tested on PTS.. oo btw.. i playing is PTS atm.. i tell u toughness is owning here.. trust me
then u still coming online on Darklands anot??
yeah for PVE like BE/BB/LV if I ever can runs. If 1.2.1 stays as is then I wont be doing any pvp on my chosen until its fixed.
choppa with full star/tough can anot ar??
Um, not entirely sure what your saying but if its "roll a choppa" the answer's no. I love Chosen, I have $1000 worth of Chaos Warrior TT figures. I've played a "Chosen" warrior heavy army if you will for the past decade or so. I love Chosen. And until Mythic fixes them, I have no real desire to roll anything new. Maybe a sorc I don't know. At the moment its a lvl 13 Ironbreaker on Dark Crag as they seem to be the only tank that's immune to the nerf bat.
BTW, the reason toughness was rocking so much on the test server was the new stat secondary changes, namely 1000 toughness healing you for 400 health every 4 seconds. Those changes aren't going live in 1.2.1
Hey all,
I was so happy ytd even though i died in the end. dis is wad happen after i restack to toughness.
Outside COF... while orders on 2nd door... i was on the way to keep.. saw a engineer flying there soon, i dismount him and go my first 1v1 in my whole Warhammer life.. haha....
Guess wad..
The engineer was down to 10% even after he drank instant hp pot... but my hp remain at 90%. he try to run i chase him but he lured me to a trap.... 1/2 WB orders came charging at me n i died to gb dammmm.... my first 1v1.. hoping to get yummy RP from dat engineer... suck suck suck
PS: i using SnB to fight him
That's why I'm a DPS chosen, because I roll alone a lot, not by choice mind you, but mostly because of the time I'm on and I'm not part of the "elite" club. I have to kill my targets before they can call for help or at least before it gets there.
ya kenway.. i feel for u.. but anyway thnx for choosing CoK as ur guild.. i try to get ur timezone warhammer members to join our guild too.. so u wunt feel lonely :D
Quote: Hey all,
I was so happy ytd even though i died in the end. dis is wad happen after i restack to toughness.
Outside COF... while orders on 2nd door... i was on the way to keep.. saw a engineer flying there soon, i dismount him and go my first 1v1 in my whole Warhammer life.. haha....
Guess wad..
The engineer was down to 10% even after he drank instant hp pot... but my hp remain at 90%. he try to run i chase him but he lured me to a trap.... 1/2 WB orders came charging at me n i died to gb dammmm.... my first 1v1.. hoping to get yummy RP from dat engineer... suck suck suck
PS: i using SnB to fight him
That is nice, but then I am puzzle you are not being kited by that engineer. Is he a newbie engineer? :confused: